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The baby circus...

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The baby circus...

Postby daffodil » 5th Dec, '12, 21:01

...has begun.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/0 ... phone-hoax

Little wonder Kate is feeling sick!
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby Pinklepurr » 6th Dec, '12, 08:30

I hate prank calls etc, but you had to laugh at that one, only because it was so hard to believe they got through. Seriouslym, that must have been one very tired person on the phones at the hospital to fall for it, their accents were atrociously bad,


Just think only another 6 months or so of this to go through.
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby SunshineAfterRain » 6th Dec, '12, 10:04

Acute morning sickness - this sounds awful :|
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby Tas » 6th Dec, '12, 10:52

I have read one and one only article from the sydney morning herald that I actually did find rather interesting, it broke down the symptoms and percentages of affected people and that if you have the [long words I can't spell] with one pregnancy then 90% chance of occuring with later pregnancies. Having known a couple people affected with this over the years actually found the easily understood description, stats etc were quite interesting from that connection to others who've experienced, already knowin how traumatic it was for them. But I was also left feeling quite sorry for the girl actually, just because you just want to vomit all the time and there is a circus out your door. Privelege or non, sheesh, some class, discretion and privacy wouldn't go astray for anyone in that state.
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby Scrummy Mummy » 6th Dec, '12, 12:39

From what I've read it sounds bloody awful - people vomiting 30 times a day and ending up 3 stone lighter at the end of the pregnancy than the start. A few people on fora have said they didn't have a second child, it was that bad, but I don't suppose she's got much choice.
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby SunshineAfterRain » 6th Dec, '12, 16:16

A person who suffered bad symptoms in one pregnancy may not have the same symptoms in subsequent pregnancies.

When I conceived my daughter, I was way past age of 35 and I walked as swift as normal (well, except in the 3rd trimester when my tummy was large as a water melon x5), no water retention in the first 2 trimesters, no gestational diabetes and no morning sickness; which of course, by the time was tested pregnant positive, I was in my 8 weeks.

My sister, had a breeze 1st pregnancy, but her weight plunged in her 2nd pregnancy due to loss of appetite, her sailvary glands was exceptionally active;she kept splitting out saliva as her mouth is constantly full! At first she kept running to the washroom. During delivery, when the gynae was trying to stitch her up, she had hemorrhage and my bro-in-law waited outside the operation threatre for hours before finally she was wheeled out after the doctor manged to stop her from bleeding. My sister intended to have a 3rd child but my bro-in-law was quite afraid to try again after the last incident though. Now, their 2 kids are grown up; the son is 18yo and the daughter is 15yo and my sister is not yet reached 45.

I suppose as a famous celebrity or from the royal family, they know their private life is not really private; no matter how they want to stay in low-profile.....unfortunate.
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby Tas » 6th Dec, '12, 17:05

Was simply quoting from article SAR regarding the specific condition, hyperemesis gravidarum. Up to 3% of women are recorded to experience, and 95% of that group are likely to have a repeat case - according to that article. I don't believe you or your sister specifically had the condition. It did not make any statement around age. A very high percentage of that group had terminated a pregnancy because the condition was so bad in their cases.
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Postby Tas » 8th Dec, '12, 07:14

That poor poor woman
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby baloo » 8th Dec, '12, 08:29

Gees that's sad.

The hospital need to have a good look at themselves here and not try to pass off the blame to the DJs. The radio prank call is as old as radio itself and as harmful as Candid Camera.

How the administration did not have trained receptionists on duty while they have the biggest news story in the world in one of their beds is beyond me.

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Re: The baby circus...

Postby daffodil » 8th Dec, '12, 09:17

Appalling outcome, two teenage children now without their Mother.
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby Kooky » 8th Dec, '12, 10:29

I think the blame needs to be shared between the hospital and the radio station. The latter doesn't have a very good track record does it (Kyle Sandilands, what a star he is - teenage rape victim stunt included). The DJs gave an obviously insincere apology and have been milking it ever since. (They've now been taken off air and have deleted their Twitter accounts.)

On Thursday there was an article in the SMH (and it's still there) turning it into a "Brits have no sense of humour" thing. Strangely, no, I don't find any of this funny. I feel for the nurse's family, the other nurse involved, and the young royals too.
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby baloo » 8th Dec, '12, 10:36

Listening to it for the first time it's obvious the DJs were shocked that their overly bad English accents managed to get any sort of response other than a hang up. I can't see how the radio station or DJs can be held responsible here. The prank radio gag is so old and institutionalised that we've all laughed at a few.

In my mind the hospital needs to take the blame here. They have the biggest news story in their bed and they let an overworked and tired nurse answer the phone ? Seriously ?
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby Tas » 8th Dec, '12, 11:39

Agree regarding the administation, in addition to their loudest comment about reviewing procedure. It also seems the nurse had reported struggling, but we don't know what was done behind the scenes if any attempt and support was provided to her. Not a lot of people are resiliant to online and media exposure and ridicule - plenty evidence to that with horrible outcomes.

I do have some degree of agreement about the age old prank, and the surprise at getting through, but do think that it was mitigated by the continued milking of the episode online. But the other half of blame to my mind belongs instead to the writers, producers and lawyers who reviewed and continued with the airing of segment. 2Day FM have an appalling record around ethical behaviour.
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby Kooky » 8th Dec, '12, 12:44

I see Coles has withdrawn its advertising from 2Day FM.

I suspect the recent (and ongoing) Alan Jones/Destroy the Joint stuff has probably made them think it's a wise decision, if only to avoid a similar attack.

edit: I won't keep updating this but Telstra followed and now ALL ads have been suspended.

What is especially interesting to me is the way the reader opinion polls swing with the tone of each article. Many people are easily led, it seems.
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Re: The baby circus...

Postby Lili Von Shtupp » 8th Dec, '12, 22:30

A duty nurse answered the telephone because there was no receptionist - that's a hospital staffing issue. And there was either a lack of policy regarding patient confidentiality, lack of clear procedure, or poor training - every hospital,clinic, doctor's office, etc will have explicit policies and procedures regarding disclosure of patient information, regardless of whether the patient is a celebrity or a schlub. IMHO, you'd think it would go double for a royal.

Still, the DJs are publicity-seeking jerks. It goes with the territory, though, doesn't it? :roll:
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