Question for Fresh Mint

[kittykat]

Hey FM! I think you are South African based on your support for the Boks. So want to know is the term "Saffa" for a South African offensive or not? I hear it said a lot but wonder if it is acceptable to say or not cool. Thanks.

[baloo]

Fresh Mint is a Zimbo, not a saffer

[kittykat]

ahhh and I see saffer is spelt with and "er" not "a".

[Morrolan]

almost sounds like a derivative from 'kaffer', which in all ways is not a cool term.

[BFG]

Why not avoid the problem and simply refer to them as "obnoxious Yarpie b*stards"?

Well done, BFG! Problem sorted...

[SAgirlRuth]

Why not avoid the problem and simply refer to them as "obnoxious Yarpie b*stards"?

Oi! [smilie=boxing.gif]

I don't mind being called a Saffa at all

[BFG]

Only trying to help....

Sheesh!

PS

[Snaffled]

I called the resident SA guy in the office an obnoxious Yarpie b*stard just now. He is wondering why I am being so nice to him today. The obnoxious Yarpie b*stard.

[BFG]

All right, I admit it is only vindication from Snaffled. But it's still vindication...

[Fat Bob]

And here's me thinking it was spelt "Jaapie".

I mean, who's ever met a nice South Afican?

[Morrolan]

And here's me thinking it was spelt "Jaapie".

methinks you are right...

[Fat Bob]

It's a rare occassion: both me being right and someone actually agreeing with it!

[baloo]

It's a rare occassion: both me being right and someone actually agreeing with it!

yep, I agree, you're right.

[SAgirlRuth]

Again, Oi!! [smilie=boxing.gif]

What's with the Saffa-bashing?

Some of us are very nice. I think. Sometimes. To people that we like.

[Morrolan]

Again, Oi!! [smilie=boxing.gif]

What's with the Saffa-bashing?

Some of us are very nice. I think. Sometimes. To people that we like.

och, just some harmless fun, bashing minorities...

[Fresh Mint]

Yeah, I'm a Zimbo, not a Saffer -- despite my support for the Boks, but that has a historical basis.

"Saffer" is not remotely derogatory though.

"Jaapie" is a bit more tricky. In the past it used to refer specifically to working class, Afrikaans speaking, white South Africans and was considered derogatory, but these days foreigners tend to call all (white) South Africans "Jaapies", and they in turn have embraced the word and use it themselves as well with a measure of self-deprecating pride a bit like "nigger" in the U.S.

[kittykat]

Yeah, I'm a Zimbo, not a Saffer -- despite my support for the Boks, but that has a historical basis.

"Saffer" is not remotely derogatory though.

"Jaapie" is a bit more tricky. In the past it used to refer specifically to working class, Afrikaans speaking, white South Africans and was considered derogatory, but these days foreigners tend to call all (white) South Africans "Jaapies", and they in turn have embraced the word and use it themselves as well with a measure of self-deprecating pride a bit like "nigger" in the U.S.

Thanks FM. That's great. I have a few South African friends and I wasn't sure to refer to them as Saffers socially and if it was in the same sentiment as a Kiwi or Ozzie.