Another example of why the US is f*cked

T2K · Post by **T2K** » 13th Nov, '09, 08:47

Black professor punches white woman in the face and gives her a black eye over a discussion about "white privilege" and race relations. Is this another "teachable moment"? Will our President spout off about how the professor's action did was stupid? Why is this not in the news like when that other black prof got arrested? In the reverse situation you KNOW it would be front page.

This is indicative of PC rot in our society. It will get worse before it gets better.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/prof ... uG6uUySGTN

Fresh Mint · Post by **Fresh Mint** » 13th Nov, '09, 09:07

Methink you doth protest too much.

I am not suggesting there are any circumstances when you should hit a woman, but she clearly is not the slightest bit interested in either pressing charges or taking the matter further, implying there is more to the story than meets the eye. The fact that it is a New York Post story suggests there could also be less to the story than meets the eye ...

My initial thought was that he probably swung at the guy and hit the woman accidentally.

As an aside, my suspicions about the story were hardly helped by reading this ...

He knocked the glasses right off my face," said the man, who would only give his first name as "Shannon."

T2K · Post by **T2K** » 13th Nov, '09, 09:26

He was charged and arraigned - she certainly is pressing charges and presumably will take the matter through to conclusion. I looked at some other sources before posting.

This would absolutely be national news in the US were the races reversed, no doubt about it.

BoD · Post by **BoD** » 13th Nov, '09, 09:31

Right, so in this case, it has been reported factually and with little PC nonsense. It is the alternative reverse scenario that is f*cked not this one.

Fresh Mint · Post by **Fresh Mint** » 13th Nov, '09, 09:37

T2K wrote:He was charged and arraigned - she certainly is pressing charges and presumably will take the matter through to conclusion. I looked at some other sources before posting.

This would absolutely be national news in the US were the races reversed, no doubt about it.

My bad. Didn't read it properly.

At the same time, you have to appreciate significant differences between a drunken argument about race in a pub, and someone being arrested in their own home.

T2K · Post by **T2K** » 13th Nov, '09, 10:45

BoD - Correct. But this brings the situation into focus since it contrasts to the other so much.

FM - Maybe yes, maybe no. If he still has his job on Monday, then no. In the other case, a guy was geting aggro with the police which always equals arrest, but no one got hurt. In this case, people were having a conversation about race and a supposed role model escalated it to violence. If the races were reversed, the professor's career would be over, without a doubt. No questions asked, no explanation accepted.

Fresh Mint · Post by **Fresh Mint** » 13th Nov, '09, 11:28

T2K wrote: FM - Maybe yes, maybe no. If he still has his job on Monday, then no. In the other case, a guy was geting aggro with the police which always equals arrest, but no one got hurt. In this case, people were having a conversation about race and a supposed role model escalated it to violence. If the races were reversed, the professor's career would be over, without a doubt. No questions asked, no explanation accepted.

You are probably quite right, but I am reserving judgment until I see how the NYT plays it. The Post is not exactly a shining beacon of good journalism...

Morrolan · Post by **Morrolan** » 13th Nov, '09, 11:33

NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/nyreg ... umbia.html

BoD · Post by **BoD** » 13th Nov, '09, 11:39

Amazing. No mention that the guy was black and that the woman was white.

Scrummy Mummy · Post by **Scrummy Mummy** » 13th Nov, '09, 11:41

I was intrigued by the comment that he likes to visit the bar and engaged in race-based debates. I mean, freedom of speech and all that but sounds like a guy looking for an argument.

Lili Von Shtupp · Post by **Lili Von Shtupp** » 13th Nov, '09, 11:43

A firecracker looking for a match?

It's not surprising that the NYT would not mention the race of either party, but it will become important in op/ed pieces.

Morrolan · Post by **Morrolan** » 13th Nov, '09, 11:55

no matter what: why did he have to sucker punch a woman? what a tool.

BoD · Post by **BoD** » 13th Nov, '09, 12:08

Tooliness knows no race

T2K · Post by **T2K** » 13th Nov, '09, 13:30

The NYT article is symptomatic of the problem. A discussion about race between people of two different races leads to violence - how could they not report the races of the parties involved? See how a reputable paper cowers under the weight of the PC rot?

It will get worse before it gets better. But it will get better.

Fresh Mint · Post by **Fresh Mint** » 13th Nov, '09, 13:39

I have to agree the NYT has been cowardly in this case.

And I've just written to them to let them know.

Outraged of Clementi.

BoD · Post by **BoD** » 13th Nov, '09, 14:21

There are people who actually have to live in Clementi?

Scrummy Mummy · Post by **Scrummy Mummy** » 13th Nov, '09, 14:27

Why do you think he's outraged?

Fresh Mint · Post by **Fresh Mint** » 13th Nov, '09, 17:08

West coast is the best coast.

Fat Bob · Post by **Fat Bob** » 13th Nov, '09, 17:24

East coast is least coast

cromasaig · Post by **cromasaig** » 13th Nov, '09, 17:35

The US is 'fucked' because of cases like this?

Media and participants included, nobody's winning any prizes for judgement here. Still, I can't help feeling that segregation was just a little more fucked up, and apparently the US survived that.

Fresh Mint · Post by **Fresh Mint** » 13th Nov, '09, 17:36

Fat Bob wrote:East coast is least coast

Oi, neighbour. You should be on my side ....

Fat Bob · Post by **Fat Bob** » 13th Nov, '09, 17:41

Errr....I am. "least" is not a good thing.

T2K · Post by **T2K** » 13th Nov, '09, 17:59

Cromag - yeah, and slavery was worse than segregation. And both had to get worse before they got better.

Having an entire nation living in fear of PC bullshit is pervasively degeneratative. The elephant in the room is big and getting bigger and we're going to greater and greater lengths to blind ourselves to its presence and cover our noses to its piles of crap.

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