Life means Life - a breach of human rights?

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Life means Life - a breach of human rights?

Post by Fat Bob » 10th Jul, '13, 08:28

I'm having trouble coming to terms with yesterday's ruling in the European courts around the UK's sentences of "Life means life".

The Torygraph give the report, and to me, a full life sentence does not breach any of the rights that are meant to be held under Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which states:

Article 3 – Prohibition of torture
No one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Where is a prison sentence equivalent to torture, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment?
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Re: Life means Life - a breach of human rights?

Post by T2K » 10th Jul, '13, 11:29

The softening of the West is synonomous to our decline.

Of course it's not inhuman or degrading by any reasonable standard. But, when standards become unreasonable then anything is inhuman. In Denmark, the dole includes an annual vacation allowance. It would be degrading not to by their standards.
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Re: Life means Life - a breach of human rights?

Post by Joseph27 » 10th Jul, '13, 11:54

T2K wrote:The softening of the West is synonomous to our decline.

Of course it's not inhuman or degrading by any reasonable standard. But, when standards become unreasonable then anything is inhuman. In Denmark, the dole includes an annual vacation allowance. It would be degrading not to by their standards.
That's funny - a vacation from joblessness - wouldnt that be work?

These sorts of rulings always skew the debate off course and pisses off most people who sit happily in the centre and just was a peaceful and comfortable life. Someone murdering another deserves a harsh punishment - a super violent criminal deserves life in seclusion - if thats cruel and unusual punishment then perhaps they should go around hurting people.

Frankly even though is an anti intellectual argument I am happy for certain classes of criminals to be subject to a firing squad. If someone is bad enough to be put behind bars forever - a bullet is surely just as good.
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