The poors can't learn piano?
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The poors can't learn piano?
Hi guys, I'm new here and I need some opinion to verify a problem which I think is relevant to most of us and genuine.
Do you think that people from middle class and below have very low opportunity to master music instruments especially piano and violin or even guitar?
From what I have noticed is that most youngsters who learned or are learning the above instruments came mostly from well-being families. However, for those that are not under this above category, they do not have a chance to learn their desired music instrument due to their financial problem.
This is a project I'm working on, hence I hope that some of you could give me some opinions or some statistics that can prove that this problem is genuine.
Thank you!
Do you think that people from middle class and below have very low opportunity to master music instruments especially piano and violin or even guitar?
From what I have noticed is that most youngsters who learned or are learning the above instruments came mostly from well-being families. However, for those that are not under this above category, they do not have a chance to learn their desired music instrument due to their financial problem.
This is a project I'm working on, hence I hope that some of you could give me some opinions or some statistics that can prove that this problem is genuine.
Thank you!
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
Ok, I'll bite.
Are you trying to show that children of lower socio-economic status have less opportunity to learn to play musical instruments because of their lower socio-economic status or are you trying to show that they don't have the same abilities as children from well-off families? Your post confuses me.
Are you trying to show that children of lower socio-economic status have less opportunity to learn to play musical instruments because of their lower socio-economic status or are you trying to show that they don't have the same abilities as children from well-off families? Your post confuses me.
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
Erm, so sorry, this is my first time doing this.
What I'm trying to say is that most youngsters from middle class or facing financial problem are unable to learn music instruments like piano.
I hope this clear your confusion?
Ps: Is this how i should reply to your comment?
What I'm trying to say is that most youngsters from middle class or facing financial problem are unable to learn music instruments like piano.
I hope this clear your confusion?
Ps: Is this how i should reply to your comment?
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
So they are unable because they lack the financial means to attend a music centre? There are of course numerous community centres that provide cheap music lessons to lower income families and there are plenty of rich kids whose skill set plateaued with guitar hero... I think you may need to rephrase your question for clarity.... Either way you will find the parents level of engagement with their children coupled with their respective interest in music will directly affect the child's ability to play.inneedofsources wrote:Erm, so sorry, this is my first time doing this.
What I'm trying to say is that most youngsters from middle class or facing financial problem are unable to learn music instruments like piano.
I hope this clear your confusion?
Ps: Is this how i should reply to your comment?
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
To be honest, I still don't know whether you think the youngsters are 'unable to learn music instruments like piano' because of their inability to afford lessons and/or instruments or for some other reason.inneedofsources wrote: What I'm trying to say is that most youngsters from middle class or facing financial problem are unable to learn music instruments like piano.
But, if you are trying to do some kind of report or study, how can you use anecdotal information from a group of people you know nothing about to prove anything? To find stats or information on the group you are talking about ('the middle class or those facing financial problems') shouldn't you find a focus group that fits that profile to use for your 'research'?
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
I'm doing a survey on the number of stupid people on the net. I'll add 1 to the "stupid" list.
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
Aww, c'mon. The stupids can't take a poll?
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
agree that not much opportunity as they cant afford the fees for learning musical instruments of their choice (in particular piano, violin) Perhaps less so for guitar? or those instruments offered in school bands as lessons on those are free.
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
Dunno, but guys like Elmore James and John Lee Hooker might find the proposition amusing.
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On a slightly different note, is it my imagination, or was there another post that's been deleted?
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
The poors I worked with in Singapore were too concerned about having no shoes to go to school in, or money to buy the necessary books, to worry about buying a piano.
Hell, most of them were sleeping like sardines in their one bedroom HDBs, where TF would they put a piano?
Hell, most of them were sleeping like sardines in their one bedroom HDBs, where TF would they put a piano?
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
Nothing stopping them, they can poll all they want.Lili Von Shtupp wrote:Aww, c'mon. The stupids can't take a poll?
Lots of poor people have learnt to play musical instruments they couldn't afford. Even more poor people have had to listen to poor players play poorly.
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
Go and read a book by Malcom Gladwell called Outliers and you'll find most of this question answered in a nice anectodal way, with some source information, then apply accordingly to Singapore. Then take note of Kooky comment.
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You may want to add the total number of Singaporum members to that list....Bender wrote:I'm doing a survey on the number of stupid people on the net. I'll add 1 to the "stupid" list.
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
by the way, "the poors"???
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Are they like The Corrs? Do they play piano?
(I always find The Corrs really irritating, too sacharine)
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Try Stonefield then. 4 sisters who are making some great music.Scrummy Mummy wrote:(I always find The Corrs really irritating, too sacharine)
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they are doing really well if its who I think ( they are the young girls that won the triple J comp last year.)
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Yep, that's them. They've been invited to Glastonbury
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
In the B flat?Kooky wrote: Hell, most of them were sleeping like sardines in their one bedroom HDBs, where TF would they put a piano?
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C, that was #Monkey Hanger wrote:In the B flat?Kooky wrote: Hell, most of them were sleeping like sardines in their one bedroom HDBs, where TF would they put a piano?
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oh that is so bad it's almost good MH
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Re: The poors can't learn piano?
Pian' is IMO - very quiet.